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That was a wonderful conversation, thank you.

Another great conversation. Thanks for these. Hope you find these notes helpful. 6:30 - Well sure, if you reduce (flatten) the world to propositions (John Vervaeke's Propositional tyranny) and ignore all the incorrect logic (symmetrical inference, btw) then sure, Derrida is correct. Ultimately this is a sign that his intellect is very weak, his logic basic and his facts are incorrect. Which does beg the question, given those observable facts, why does anyone listen to anything he has to say? Why does anyone think he's 'smart' or has anything useful to say? 9:00 - It isn't only divisive, it can only ever be divisive. There cannot be hierarchy if we cannot agree on things that object to both of us that we agree on. So it's a change in the definition of 'objective', along with a relativism. This will always lead to narcissism because it says there are only personal private perspectives, none of which can make a claim to anything outside the ego. This is the begining of toxic individualism. There is no good in Post Modernism, it cannot be redeemed (nor should it). 23:00 - So the idea of Top Down Power from Above is a common theme in European philosophy. So no definition of power, just a statement of constraints that prevent the personal private perspective from manifesting their idea of how the world works. 25:40 - Materialism alone doesn't explain Marx, it also has to NOT MOVE, in other words, you need to compress time, or eliminate it, in order to make anything Marx says make sense at all. Otherwise it's all observably wrong. Sure, the Frankfurt school comes along and gets it wrong in the other direction. 30:50 - So an intellectual, who believes he has more 'knowledge' thinks knowledge and power are the same. Shocking. Not at all psychological projection or wishful thinking. 32:00 - Power remains undefined again - but the only way to know about power is oppressor and oppressed. So that is how you infer power, even though it's only knowledge. Obvious contradiction. 33:15 - A completely circular definition of truth! Excellent, how helpful. All flat world thinking done by men of small intellect indeed. Sounds like he agrees with Derrida in that sense, at least, that definitions are all relative to one another (an impossible coniditon since you ignore starting state) and 'systems' is the new 'relative'. That is 'new' in a way, but not really. Again, these crazy self reference (hint, all self reference is wrong) not only requires a flat world, but ignores time and change. Truth as power while power determines truth, therefore it's a circular definition with no begining and no end. There is no way this doesn't devolve immediately into preferencing your ego (because personal private perspective) which is narcassism. All the while the author is telling you this as an authority. It's very sneaky. Also, creates the whole 'opponent processing' lie, which is nothing but destructive. It should be cooperative processing, because that is how it works in the eye, in our brains, as we think, etc. I wish there were more attention to this fact. 51:20 - Why it is that people, especially smart people, miss the contradiction? That is a fascinating topic. It seems as though the higher your IQ, the more easily you are fooled by this trick. 54:00 - Notice that the narcassists like Derrida just don't see their own error. Other Narcassists say 'cool game' and play along. 55:40 - Tear down our rationalist tradition? Far worse, just playing God, trying to remake the work to their will, irrespective of any other factors. As the 'author' they take the God's eye view. The material cannot be used for good. I think the idea that people do things for rational reasons, like 'logic, reason and rationality won't give us what we want' is wrong. People mimic patterns in the world. If those patterns happen to be able to enable their dreams, they prefer those patterns. This looks backwards from the outside - a common confusion. Academics that quote without attribution. How unusual. Or a good tell for bad people whose 'philosophies' should be ignored.

Is there any room for critique against Bethan? I respect this is about her, and celebrating her role; but there are many others, who have been treated very unkindly by her, who did more than she did.

The only non protected class white men

Now if ur a white mzn in america hzve less oppurnity than immigrants

Show she thinks normal people are stupid if journalist were fair people wouldnt have look up all this i fo bias

I've heard that back in ancient Greece, multiple philosophers scorned their students for writing things down because they thought it was detrimental to their memories. They thought people should train their memories to remember instead of writing. I guess we're at another point like that! Imagine if no one chose to write; maybe we'd have forgotten things, but maybe we'd all have better memories.

I’ve been following Katherine with interest since she interviewed Musk, a memorable night. I like the questions she asks. And talking with Tammy P just makes for a great dialogue.

What a great convergence!!!

I wanted 61 years to finally hear this.

In this generation, people love liars wearing the clothing of truth, rather than that the truth is naked.

11:50 i think if Jordan Peterson put his research out with his ideas, some of them would be unstoppable.

I should only listen to this. The way her lip pulls to the right is visually distracting. She is very pretty though.

I find it interesting all the men who signed the Declaration of Sentiments. I'm sure each person had his own reason for doing so, but I see this also in the Woke movement. I worked at a college in California and so many caucasian administrators and faculty wholeheartedly took on the Racist moniker as described in the Ibrahim X Kendi book. As if accepting their guilt as describe in the book expunged them from the sins of their ancestors. In fact the caucasians were more militant and dogmatic than their peers of different color and race.

Oh I am SO looking forward to watching. I am a great admirer of Katherine and I did think, dear Mrs. Peterson, that you and Dr. Peterson would be, as well. It was such a joy to get to see you two speak in Boston and an even greater joy to get to meet Dr. Peterson. With love from Ruth Anne

Thank you Tammy and Katherine ☀️ May God be with you and bless you and all the people that you love

TLC’s mother?

Nice listening.

God bless you Tammy. Your testimony of healing has greatly encouraged me.

Interesting Topic. ☝️

How can I get involved? What can be done? You, me, and my friends all agree with this entire episode. Can we brainstorm on how to fix this?

"Come be my light!" ( book of Mother Teresa)

Thanks Tammy. Your calm voice is great at steering through the thread of the story.

I normally don't leave comments, but I just wanted to say that as a young man who is now converting to christianity, I've never clicked on a video faster. Jonathan's videos opened the door for me to come to Christ. And Tammy, more than anyone else, seeing how you and Jordan Peterson conduct yourselves has shown me that healthy relationships are possible, and as someone who came from a very broken home, it's given me something to strive towards being a part of in the future. Thank you both for the inspiration, it's helped me greatly.

This was lovely. I happened across this interview after listening to Coleman's interview with Mary Harrington and feeling aligned with her perspective, appreciating the intelligent way of expressing it. But I was even more impressed with this interview. Tammy Peterson has a Feminine silent presence that I admire. Yet when she speaks, a beautiful voice shares worlds of wisdom. I'll certainly be following. Her last paragraph was on target. Many thanks.

I wonder how many divorces have occurred at least partially owing to artificial birth control? It made me a basket case the first 8 months of our marriage. How much does it have to do with infertility?

Math for visual learners = Singapore math. It's great to aid in visualizing word problems.

Reminds me of my firstborn in 1998. He got misidentified in an incident in 2nd grade. He was so upset that he fled the school and ran all the way home. They then placed him in some group therapy with naughty/disruptive children. Someone recently said to me, "Oh my gosh, the 'othered' him!!" I should have pulled him out then. He stayed 4 years and begged me to let him stay home after the first day of 6th grade.

They tried to brainwash you and groom you into their woke IDEOLOGY, well done eva

Love this conversation, really like Stephen Hicks. Some general comments I hope you find helpful. These are more general so I didn't use timestampes. I find that capitalism has nothing to do with voting, but everything to do with access to capital (hint is in the name). I would argue that the philosophical thought around things like voting is a misapprehension and came much later. The cold war talk came later as the result of the split in socialism into communist and fascist (honest socialism). So this is odd framing. The reason why economics comes up is because materialists measure things, it's not a function of Marxism directly, it's just a second order effect from the same cause as Marxism. A lot of this is just the flattening of the world. Treating components (no such thing as individuals) as wholes (collectives) is a problem, because we don't want to admit different rules need exist at different scales. The mediation of large groups of non-familial groups is called 'government' (in all cases). The denial of government because 'tyranny' is the problem being solved here through reduction of the world to a single set of rules for all cases. This is always a single, personal, private perspective, which is where all the confusion comes in. There is no difference between 'Grecco Roman' tradition and 'Judeo Christian' tradition. Plato's Republic ends with a tale about a ressurection. Rome admired Greece greatly and took many things (as they did with every culture they encourted) from them. In so far as 'philosophy' exists, in the case of Rome and Greece, explicitly, it ran right into Christianity. You could argued it morphed into it. In either case, the idea that those are different from OUR perspective is a bit odd, since Christianity conquered both regions before we came along....so.... The government side of 'rights' is not a religious argument and it's based on the Greek and Roman (western) canon, but it spurred by the beheading of the English king, which is far more important in crafting the government in the US. This story about 'modern' is quite compelling, but impossible. There are a lot of assumptions about what people knew and how that impacted them works. This is an Age of Gnosis, knowledge as highest value and prime mover story. People aren't usually moved by knowledge and arguments, they use that to justify their desires instead. Notice that Dr. Hicks tells the story as if it unfolded with rationality and knowledge first, but then tells the story of us prioritizing that after the initial push. This is poor ordering (and extremely common in the knowledge first crowd). It is a super compelling story, because it hangs together quite well, until you sequence it in time and space. It is worth noting that the science crowd loves the 'modern' approach, with rationality at the helm and individuals able to 'work things out' because they believe they have better rationality. Therefore the 'power' is (or should be) with them. When that doesn't work out, they accept the post modern ideas rather than resist them. Also of note is the heavy hindsight bias in these stories told by both Dr. Hicks and all 'modern' philosophers. One trick the post moderns play is in their use of the word 'power' (undefined , but often described as top down control thorugh force or threat of force) and how it becomes a nice short cut for 'ability to change the thing you want'. When you want the highest value to be climate, because that is what you worship, you must destroy other forms of value (art). Or replace it. Or both. This is a very common historical pattern. Defacing things is not necessarily anti-indivudalism, it could be just equality doctrine, if we are all equal, why should we take any single individual face and advertise it? Or show it to others? Or have it available when every other face is not? That isn't exactly a denial of individualism. Equality doctrine looks like lots of other things, be careful the story someone is telling. Oh, I can agree that putting a unirnal into a musem is nihlistic ultimately, but long before that it is critique as such. It's a statement about something, which might not be what you think. It also may send messages that the person who did it was not intending. Chaos breeds chaos, so a small, simple, basic, correct critique will most often lead to nihilism, that doens't mean it is or was intended to be nihilistic, this is where we get into trouble, cause and effect. Saying 'for beauty or against' presumes that you know and that those people know, what is good vs. bad beauty/virtue/etc. However, I think the core problem is that they do not have the poetic way of informing the world and therefore, cannot tell what is beauty vs what is good beauty vs what is ugly. This is a common problem of inherent judgement, when we haven't formed people to know good from bad, virtue from banal from vice. I would argue that to 'inform' is a type of formation, which is what we ignore, because individuals either don't need this (and when does that begin? What age?) or do it themselves (because they have to). Trying to be an individual is therefore a lost cause.

Biden is the biggest trafficker ever

Damn. 😂😂 The whole family is all grifters LoL

And why did the Dutch invade, loot and convert people in other countries????

I love the way Tammy brings the human impact into the conversation and Jonathon lays out a wider impact that has resulted in the negative impact on families, communities and the possible long term outcomes. Brilliant joint effort. Thank you to both of you.

Okay, but who owns and runs the porn industry?

Was the rise of feminism perhaps predictable? Partly due to men having two supreme concerns in regard to relations with women. What men want most is to: 1. Keep the peace with women (especially in the home) 2. Get laid/keep getting laid These top two priorities inform men’s choices. They are very influential in men’s decisions as men tend to favor whatever choice advances and protects those two priorities. In short, what women want, women get (generally speaking). So if women become enamored with feminist ideology and its associated demands, it’s only a matter of time before men fold. Because they want their peace. And they want to get laid.

Massage therapist? Jordan is spoiled 😂 my wife is a photographer😅

55:00 what author was that? (I could not hear the spelling)

Damn, let the expert speak.

As a therapist who used to work with human trafficking victims, I can concur that much of pornography is non consensual. Biden s open border has increased this exponentially. If people truly understood what happens on the other side of the camera…they would puke.

Appreciate you both! Thank you for this conversation.

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Sometimes Tammy says something that sounds exactly like Jordan, haha - "They have to get rid of phones in schools. Well, they might have to get rid of schools"

I remember when I first figured out what postmodernism was and I immediately saw “this is a morality for slaves. The only reason you’d promote this is to weaken society in order to enslave it.”

Tammy please pray for me. I’m 4 weeks pregnant and my job doesn’t offer maternity leave and we have a new mortgage. I’ve completely fallen and lost my way. And now I don’t know how to muster up the courage and strength to climb out and keep going but I have to because my toddler and husband are counting on me. Please pray for me that I don’t get too sick and have the knowledge of Gods will and stick to it.

It is sad what she describes. It is a huge wedge and to the detriment of all.

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Remember that there are alot more comments visible (but never notified) under recent rather than 'popular' comments.

If feminism has such a dark history, why do we continue it to allow it to exist? Why do men put up with it? Why do Christians put up with it?

Blessings on Tammy Bishop Baron and Jordan Peterson . Her testimony is a gift from GOD. Thank you for this erudite lesson in the Rosary and Prayer. I have prayed the Rosary daily for forgiveness and for guidance from the Holy Spirit -since 2005 when I followed the still quiet voice which spoke to me as I was alone and broken I had gone way down too. Easy Does it, Just for Today - Keep it Simple…Prayers of ❤